the times you've been there in the past. we have talked about ben bernanke an awful lot since qe-3, and larry, you think there's a bigger message there. >> i do. and we were somewhat critical of the decision. but i don't think anyone should be critical of ben bernanke's performance. i can't think of anybody who has physically done more for the country. i mean, those were 18, 20, 21-hour days. the guy has made a tremendous sacrifice on his family, on himself personally, and i do think it's important that for the country to grow up about this, it's fine to disagree about the policy, but he takes personal attacks from both the right and left, and i think they're totally unjustified. and i think we should actually, you know, pay him a tribute. i think he's making a great sacrifice and we need to salute him and people like him. >> you know, i think i'd agree with that. >> i totally agree with that. i give president bush credit for appointing chairman bernanke, and i give president obama tremendous credit for reappointing him. again, just like larry said, people can agree or disagree, yo